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Feb 16 12 10:54 PM

In RSSSF, Nehru Cup editions 1991 and 1997 are still incomplete.
Anyone knows the missing matches (date, city, Team status, result)?
Many thanks in advance.

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Feb 17 12 3:14 PM

Giampaolo wrote:
In RSSSF, Nehru Cup editions 1991 and 1997 are still incomplete.
Anyone knows the missing matches (date, city, Team status, result)?
Many thanks in advance.


1991
11- 1 Soviet Union XI 4-0 Zambia
12- 1 Hungary XI 1-0 China
13- 1 India 0-3 Romania B
14- 1 Hungary XI 1-1 Soviet Union XI
15- 1 China 0-0 Zambia
16- 1 Romania B 4-1 Soviet Union XI
17- 1 India 1-2 Hungary XI
18- 1 Romania B 3-1 Zambia
19- 1 Soviet Union XI 2-0 China
20- 1 India 1-0 Zambia
21- 1 Romania B 1-1 Hungary XI
22- 1 India 0-1 China
23- 1 Hungary XI 4-1 Zambia
24- 1 India 1-3 Soviet Union XI
25- 1 Romania B 2-0 China

Final
27- 1 Romania B 3-1 Hungary XI


1997 results are complete on RSSSF. Did you mean 1995?

1995
8- 3 Iraq 3-1 Uzbekistan Youth
8- 3 Zenit St.Petersburg 1-1 Thailand
10- 3 Zenit St.Petersburg 0-0 Iraq
10- 3 India 0-5 Thailand
12- 3 Zenit St.Petersburg 2-0 Uzbekistan Youth
12- 3 India 1-1 Iraq
14- 3 Iraq 3-1 Thailand
14- 3 India 1-0 Uzbekistan Youth
16- 3 Uzbekistan Youth 1-0 Thailand
16- 3 Zenit St.Petersburg 3-0 India

NB - Estonia were invited but declined the offer.

Final
18- 3 Iraq 1-0 Zenit St.Petersburg

The overview page on RSSSF gives the venue for each year:
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesn/nehru.html

1991 - Thiruvanthapuram
1995 - Calcutta

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Feb 25 12 4:03 PM

Nehru Cup 1983
In RSSSF: Iran-Cameroon (2 Matches) unk scores. One of them (which one?) ended 0-0.
Who knows the exact results?

And: Iran and Cameroon Teams, in that Tnmt, can be labelled as XI Sel,
considering that both of them do not appear in "List of NT Int. Matches"?
(see RSSSF).


Nehru Cup 1991
According to FIFA (see RSSSF) only Hungary and India were "A" Teams.
Confirmed in "magyarfutball.hu", where only "Hungary vs India" is listed
as official Match.
If the above is true, also Zambia and China (in addition to Soviet Union) have to be labelled as XI Sel.
But: is it true or not?

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Feb 25 12 5:08 PM

Giampaolo wrote:
Nehru Cup 1983
In RSSSF: Iran-Cameroon (2 Matches) unk scores. One of them (which one?) ended 0-0.
Who knows the exact results?


Both matches ended 0-0. Also, the first match was played on 16th and not 18th. Romania v Cameroon was played on 18th and not 16th as per RSSSF.

14- 3 Romania U-21 2-1 Iran
16- 3 Iran 0-0 Cameroon XI
18- 3 Romania U-21 3-1 Cameroon XI
20- 3 Romania U-21 1-1 Iran
22- 3 Iran 0-0 Cameroon XI
24- 3 Romania U-21 0-2 Cameroon XI

Lineups for first Cameroon v Iran match:
CAMEROON
Jacques Songo'o; Lekane, Emoka, Nguidjol, Mbasi; Mbough (Kum), Dagobat Dang, Joseph Marie Kwebou; Samou, Domche, Olle Olle

IRAN
Hafeez Tahooni; Mohammad Shakurzudeh (or Shukhoorzudeh), Mohamad Panjali (or Pangali), Mohamad Khazrai (or Khuzria?), Karim Shahroodi (or Sharoodi); Behroz Tabani, Ahmad Sanjari, Salimpoor; Hajalipoor (Dastneshan), Hamid Ali Dousti, Morteza Yekeh

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Giampaolo wrote:


Nehru Cup 1991
According to FIFA (see RSSSF) only Hungary and India were "A" Teams.
Confirmed in "magyarfutball.hu", where only "Hungary vs India" is listed
as official Match.
If the above is true, also Zambia and China (in addition to Soviet Union) have to be labelled as XI Sel.
But: is it true or not?


Soviet Union took a strong but young team. Apparently, 11 of the 18 players on their team were part of the European Championship final-reaching team (presumably the 1990 European U-21 Championship and not the 1988 European Championship). Zambia took a team of 16-18 year olds, so definitely not the national team. China was actually Liaoning.

KNOWN PLAYERS (names given as found in reports):

SOVIET UNION: Ovtchinnikov (gk), Staoutche (gk), Sergei Kiriakov (2 goals v Zambia, 1 goal v Hungary, 1 goal v China, 2 goals v India), Viktor Onopko, Yuriy Moroz, Oleg Matveev (1 goal v Zambia, 1 goal v India), Sergei Bezhenar, Vassili Ivanov, Veleri Popovich (1 goal v Zambia), Alexander Zakharov (1 goal v Romania), Mridjalal Kassymov (cap, 1 goal v China), Rakhva Tedeev

ZAMBIA: Howard Chikumbi Phiri (gk), Sunday Mulenga (gk), Faniwell Chansa, Zifa Nkhoma, Robert Watiyakeni (cap), Richard Mwanza, Happy Ponda, David Mutale, Dennis Lota (1 goal v Romania), Chambisha, Trevor Mugala, Numba Mwila

CHINA: Xu Tao (gk), Li Yi, Ma Lin, Zhao Faqing (cap), Fu Bo, Tao Yaodong, Huang Chong (1 goal v India), Li Zheng, Lu Dong, Li Quang, Dong Liqiang, Li Qiang

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Jun 16 12 12:24 AM

jonny wrote:
Nehru Cup 2012 start 23 .August.

5 teams

http://www.the-aiff.com/pages/news/index.php?N_Id=3200


India has invited Nigeria, Jordan, Thailand, Malaysia, Costa Rica and Afghanistan.

http://www.business-standard.com/generalnews/news/nehru-cup-football-to-be-heldaug-23-to-sep-2/21108/

Qatar and Syria also mentioned.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/football/interviews/Great-chance-to-develop-football-in-India-Koevermans/articleshow/14160246.cms

This article mentions that 6 teams were invited (decision of the executive committee)

Jordan, Nigeria, Malaysia, Syria, Qatar and Afghanistan

I expect it to be India, Afghanistan, Malaysia, maybe Nigeria CHAN + either Jordan or Syria. I don't think Qatar will go.

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Jul 13 12 6:09 AM

The Azkals (Philippines) will then compete in the five-nation Nehru Cup in India against the hosts, Kenya, Jordan, and Syria from Aug 22-Sept. 2.

http://www.philstar.com/sportsarticle.aspx?articleid=827025&publicationsubcategoryid=69

Along with India and Maldives, Bahrain and Philippines will take part in this tournament. According to media reports AIFF invited Syria, Jordan, Cameroon, Nigeria, Thailand, Costa Rica, Malaysia and Zambia as well.

http://www.haveeru.com.mv/sports/43282

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Jul 13 12 8:55 AM

5 teams? I count at least 7 teams in your post......

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Aug 29 12 9:59 PM

trekky76 wrote:
Cameroon matches no longer listed at fifa.com


Because they double-checked with the Cameroon FA and they told them it wasn't their A team. Apparently, the Cameroon FA had originally sent them a letter saying it was their A team (I'm sure they said A' team (i.e. B team) and FIFA just misread it as A team). I'm sure the same thing happened with Morocco in the Arab Cup, but unfortunately, that mistake has not been rectified.

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Aug 29 12 10:03 PM

pieter wrote:
Strange format: now we have two India-Syria with the first game without any importance... Why put the probable finalists in the last game against each other ?


The same thing has happened this year

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Aug 31 12 9:10 AM

trekky76 wrote:
trekky76 wrote:
Cameroon matches no longer listed at fifa.com


And they are again listed on fifa.com..


If a country wants to use their CHAN team as the main national team, FIFA has to include the matches as regular national team matches. It seems (nothing is clear) that Cameroon want these matches to be included as regular national team matches (no idea why, they won't get many ranking points for friendly matches).

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Aug 31 12 11:50 AM

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If a country wants to use their CHAN team as the main national team, FIFA has to include the matches as regular national team matches. It seems (nothing is clear) that Cameroon want these matches to be included as regular national team matches (no idea why, they won't get many ranking points for friendly matches).


Yes but this is not their CHAN team. They have players from UEFA leagues as well in the squad. This is more like a B team.

www.soccer-db.info

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Aug 31 12 12:03 PM

trekky76 wrote:
mcruic wrote:


If a country wants to use their CHAN team as the main national team, FIFA has to include the matches as regular national team matches. It seems (nothing is clear) that Cameroon want these matches to be included as regular national team matches (no idea why, they won't get many ranking points for friendly matches).


Yes but this is not their CHAN team. They have players from UEFA leagues as well in the squad. This is more like a B team.


The team they summoned for training for this competition was entirely home-based. I guess they could have added some more players later.

http://www.fecafootonline.com/?lng=1&module=media&idrub=99998&idnews=83247

http://www.goalnepal.com/news.php?id=8562

In any case, FECAFOOT's site states it is Lions A' (i.e., an official name for the national B team). I think this is the problem - A' looks too much like A. We have something similarly confusing in Rugby Union, where the B team is called the A team (i.e. England is the A team, England A is the B team).

It's not the A team, but for some weird reason, Cameroon would like to count these matches towards the ranking, which means in the next ranking, Cameroon will drop around 8 places, and even if they win the Nehru Cup, they will probably drop again in October's rankings due to the fact all these matches count as friendlies.

In cases like this, which in my opinion are obvious, I think it is best to ignore the Cameroon FA and FIFA and list the matches as Cameroon B.

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Aug 31 12 1:11 PM

trekky76 wrote:
I don't mind if it's A or B matches. Just wish they would stop changing the status back and forth.


You'll be happy to hear they've done it again... Cameroon's matches will not count as A matches.

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