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Feb 28 10 2:23 PM

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Chile : two matches against C.Rica and N.Korea cancelled (earthquake)...
How could they play two games on the same day ?
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Feb 28 10 7:48 PM

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pieter wrote:
Chile : two matches against C.Rica and N.Korea cancelled (earthquake)...
How could they play two games on the same day ?


Two squads.

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Mar 10 10 9:22 PM

SiC wrote:
Bielsa called 28 players, to make 2 tems with 3 substitus each.


Interesting method to test two different teams in one day. But finally the matches didn't take part..

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Jun 9 10 6:23 PM

What about the Chile-N.Zealand match ? Was it played 3X30 min and why? it is also 90 min but it cannot be accepted as full international I suppose....?

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Apr 14 12 9:33 AM

Guerin Sportivo number 17 from 1982, page 14, reports a match played by the Chilean National team before the World Cup 1982.

Chile-RWDM (a Belgian club) 4-2 played in Santiago.

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Apr 16 12 2:36 PM

Some others:

7-4-82 Chile 1-0 Defensor
13-4-82 Chile 0-1 Botafogo
29-4-82 Oviedo 0-0 Chile
8-5-82 Chile 5-1 Palestino
13-5-82 Chile 4-2 RWD Molenbeek
15-5-82 Chile 1-0 Barcelona
23-5-82 Chile 3-2 PSG
27-5-82 Chile 0-0 Inter Milan
2-6-82 Chile 4-1 Botafogo

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Jul 3 12 9:34 AM

21/11/1973
Estadio Nacional
Santiago de Chile

Chile-Santos 0-5

On that day, Chile and Soviet Union had to play a qualifying match valid for the World Cup 1974, but USSR refused to visit the Country of Augusto Pinochet. So, Chile invited the Brazilian club for a friendly, but Santos was too strong.

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Dec 26 13 8:14 PM

1969-06-25 GDR-Chile 2-1 (Halle)
Scorers: Vogel, Kreische, Gallardo

Official for Chile. Was it a GDR combined of some sort? Three days earlier a full intl was played in Magdeburg where the Chileans won by one goal.

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Dec 27 13 10:22 AM

The Brazilian newspaper Folha de São Paulo from June 26, 1969 reports: "As seleções de futebol da Alemanha Oriental e do Chile", that is to say "The National football teams of East Germany and of Chile".

The Colombian newspaper El Tiempo from June 26, 1969 says: "Un seleccionado de Alemania Oriental venció al equipo nacional de Chile", that is to say: "A selection of East Germany defeated the Chilean National team".

The Italian newspaper Corriere dello Sport from June 26, 1969 only says "East Germany defeated Chile in a friendly match". They propose the German line-up: Croy, Dobermann, Urbanczyk, Bransch, Dörner, Seehaus, Löwe, Horst Wruck, Frenzel, Kreische, Vogel. The referee was Mister Bader, from East Germany.


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Dec 28 13 3:41 AM

SDb wrote:
1969-06-25 GDR-Chile 2-1 (Halle)
Scorers: Vogel, Kreische, Gallardo
Official for Chile. Was it a GDR combined of some sort? Three days earlier a full intl was played in Magdeburg where the Chileans won by one goal.

This was a "DDR-Oberliga-auswahl"  (i.e. East German League selection).  Of course, this was just a label for an "experimental" national team, and the lineups for both games were similar.  The first match in Magdeburg was also, to some extent, a slightly experimental lineup, as younger / untried players were called in.  The result was a defeat, the first home defeat for 6 years.

22-6-1969, Magdeburg, Ernst-Grube-Stadion, 25000
East Germany 0-1 Chile  (Guillermo Yávar 90')
East Germany: Jürgen Croy; Otto Fräßdorf, Klaus Urbanczyk [c], Erich Hamann, Bernd Bransch; Horst Wruck, Hans-Jürgen Kreische (Manfred Zapf 46'); Wolfram Löwe, Henning Frenzel (Hans-Jürgen Dörner 59'), Jürgen Sparwasser, Eberhard Vogel.
Chile: Adolfo Nef; Juan Rodríguez, Gustavo Laube, Alberto Quintano, Daniel Díaz (Eduardo Herrera ??'); Francisco Valdés, Roberto Hodge; Pedro Araya, Carlos Reinoso (Guillermo Yávar 69'), Adolfo Olivares, Alberto Fouilloux.
Referee: Karlo Kruashvili (USSR)
(Not all sources mention Herrera)

25-6-1969, Halle, Kurt-Wabbel-Stadion, 8500
East Germany League 2-1 Chile   (Eberhard Vogel 9', Klaus-Dieter Seehaus 47' / Julio Gallardo 48')
East Germany League: Jürgen Croy, Bernd Dobermann, Klaus Urbanczyk [c], Hans-Jürgen Dörner, Bernd Bransch, Horst Wruck (Harald Schütze 46'), Hans-Jürgen Kreische, Wolfram Löwe, Henning Frenzel, Klaus-Dieter Seehaus, Eberhard Vogel.
Chile: Adolfo Nef; Juan Rodríguez, Alberto Quintano, Gustavo Laube, Daniel Díaz; Roberto Hodge (Alfonso Lara), Pedro Araya; Francisco Valdés, Julio Gallardo, Guillermo Yávar, Alberto Fouilloux.
Referee: Helmut Bader (East Germany).


After hosting Chile, the East Germany "Oberligaauswahl" went on a short tour of Sweden playing 3 games vs clubs.  I think you can consider those also to be East German national team participations.

30-6-1969, IK Sirius (Uppsala) 1-3 East Germany League  (Carlsson 73' / Schütze 27', Seehaus 30', Sparwasser 52')
2-7-1969, IF Elfsborg (Borås) 1-2 East Germany League (? / ?, Frenzel 90')
4-7-1969, Hälsingborgs IF 0-4 East Germany League  (Sparwasser 1' 31' 61', Vogel 71')
The dates may be one day out. I have lineups for DDR for the 1st and 3rd game. Perhaps you can find more info from the Swedish side.

Next was the visit of Uruguayan club Nacional, and the U.A.R. (Egypt) national team.  Both played matches in Rostock during the "Ostseewoche" sports festival.   Also part of this were youth matches between DDR and Finland (DDR won 1-0 in Greifswald and 4-3 in Wismar).

6-7-1969 Rostock, FC Hansa Rostock 2-1 Nacional  (Kostmann 2', Decker 73' / Maneiro 15')
9-7-1969 Karl-Marx-Stadt, East Germany Youth 0-0 Nacional
12-7-1969 Berlin, East Germany League 0-1 Nacional  (Celio 36')
East Germany League: Jürgen Croy, Bernd Dobermann, Klaus Urbanczyk [c], Bernd Bransch, Manfred Zapf, Klaus-Dieter Seehaus, Wolfram Löwe (Horst Wruck 89'), Harald Schütze (Erich Hamann 67'), Henning Frenzel, Jürgen Sparwasser (Hans-Jürgen Kreische 46'), Eberhard Vogel.

9-7-1969 Rostock, East Germany 7-0 U.A.R.  (Frenzel 6' 33' 60', Vogel 7', Sparwasser 81' 83', Löwe 84')
East Germany: Jürgen Croy (Dieter Schneider 55'); Bernd Dobermann, Klaus Urbanczyk [c], Manfred Zapf, Bernd Bransch; Klaus-Dieter Seehaus, Harald Schütze; Jürgen Sparwasser, Henning Frenzel, Hans-Jürgen Kreische (Wolfram Löwe 55'), Eberhard Vogel.
UAR: Hassan Mokhtar; Yakan Zaki Hussein [c], Mohammed 'Mimi' El-Sherbini, Mohammed Aboul Ezz, Hany Moustafa; Mohammed El-Mazati 'Bobbo' (Abdel-Karim El-Gohary 46'), Taha Basry; Ibrahim 'Moustafa' Reyadh, Ali Abou-Greisha, Hassan El-Shazly, Farouk El-Sayed Ibrahim  (Ibrahim Abdel Samad 80').
12-7-1969, Wusterhausen/Dosse, East Germany Youth 1-1 U.A.R. (Seguin 31' / Ali Abougreisha 79')

Then East Germany hosted the USSR in a friendly at Leipzig, part of the 5th DDR Sports Festival.
Meanwhile both Nacional and U.A.R. then went to the U.S.S.R.

16-7-69 Dinamo Tbilisi 0-0 Nacional
19-7-69 Zenit Leningrad 0-4 Nacional
21-7-69 Spartak Moskva 2-0 Nacional

21-7-69 Russian SFSR 2-2 UAR
23-7-69 Dinamo Minsk 3-2 UAR
These two dates may be one or two days out.

Also I noticed this interesting game while digging these out of my untidy files:
??-7-69 Georgian SSR  0-1  "Poland Olympic team"
Reported in newspaper edition 22nd July  (so probably played 2 or 3 days earlier)
Perhaps Poland played other similar matches on this trip.

Last Edited By: nfm24 Dec 29 13 3:55 PM. Edited 1 time.

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Dec 28 13 3:23 PM

nfm24 wrote:

Also I noticed this interesting game while digging these out of my untidy files:
21-7-69 Georgian SSR  0-1  Poland Olympic team
Perhaps Poland played other similar matches on this trip.


Should be the same team that played Neftçi 1969-07-22 in Baku and USSR Olympic 1969-07-25 in Volgograd. According to Dziennik Polski the (national) team was to play 5 matches on its USSR tour between 19th and 31st July but no other data is given.

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Dec 28 13 11:13 PM

21.07.69 Georgian SSR 0-1 Poland Olympic (Tbilisi)
22.07.69 Neftçi Baku 2-1 Poland Olympic (Baku)
25.07.69 USSR Olympic 0-4 Poland Olympic (Volgograd)
31.07.69 Trud Voronezh (now Fakel Voronezh) 0-0 Poland Olympic (Voronezh)

Missing match probably on 28th (or 19th)


Taken from the excellent yearwise list of unofficial Poland matches on the Polish Wikipedia.

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Dec 29 13 4:44 PM

TheRoonBa wrote:
21.07.69 Georgian SSR 0-1 Poland Olympic (Tbilisi)
It must have been a day or two earlier.  The score was included in a brief summary of results in the 22nd July edition of "Neues Deutschland".
It was mentioned as the Olympic team, but it looks from the "Dziennik Polski" info that it was actually the national team, or an experimental one.  Anyway "Olympic team" for Poland was a meaningless label in this period, as they had no real restrictions.  I suppose the label could mean "team developing for the 1972 Olympics"...

The Polish lineup vs USSR Olympic (4-0 on 25-7-69):
Hubert Kostka, Jan Leszczyński, Jan Wraży, Bolesław Szadkowski, Zygmunt Anczok, Walter Winkler, Ryszard Mańko (Zygfryd Szołtysik), Zygmunt Schmidt (Kazimierz Deyna), Andrzej Jarosik, Bronisław Bula, Robert Gadocha.
There are maybe 2 or 3 players who were not regulars, but most of the players consistently appeared in full internationals in this period.

Anyway, wiki / Dziennik said there should be five games, and we now have four.

Perhaps our Russian colleagues can provide more info, and also confirm whether U.A.R. played any other matches on this tour.

Last Edited By: nfm24 Dec 29 13 5:18 PM. Edited 2 times.

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Dec 29 13 8:31 PM

Going on the dates mentioned above for the start and finish of tour (19th and 31st), I'd say 19.7.69 was quite likely for the Georgia match. That leaves a neat situation where Poland played 5 games with 2 days of rest in between each game (assuming the missing match is on 28.7.69).


Edit - I found a programme online that shows the Trud Voronezh - Poland Olympic match was actually played on 28.07.69 (I'm not sure if Poland played Trud twice on 28th and 31st, or if the Polish Wikipedia has the date wrong).  I think probably the latter (Polish Wikipedia is wrong), so we are looking at a missing match on 31.7.69.

Poland seem to have visited the South-west of the USSR, and gone in a kind of progressive arc that ultimately gets closer to Poland (makes sense).

Tbilisi, east to Baku, North-West to Volgograd, North-West to Voronezh).  It's quite possible the missing match was played in a city between Voronezh and Poland (possibly Minsk or Kiev?)

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