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Part I (1920-1929):
??.05.1920 - Kraków:
Poland vs Lviv [PL] 12:1 (1:0)

13.11.1921 - Kraków:
Poland vs Poland B 4:1 (1:0)

27.11.1921 - Kraków:
Poland vs Polska B 5:1 (2:1)

04.12.1921 - Kraków:
Poland vs Bielsk 3:1 (1:0)

08.12.1921 - Lviv:
Lviv (PL) vs Poland 1:9 (0:1)

11.12.1921 - Kraków:
Kraków (PL) vs Poland 1:7 (1:3)

03.05.1922 - Kraków
Poland vs Poland B 3:4 (1:2)

30.05.1922 - Stockholm
Stockholm (SWE) vs Poland 1:0 (0:0)

20.09.1922 - Kraków
Poland vs Poland B 4:2 (1:1)

31.05.1923 - Kraków
Cracovia [PL] vs Poland 2:4 (0:3, 1:4) /3x 30 min/

19.09.1923 - Vilnius
Vilnius [PL] vs Poland 0:5 (0:1)

20.05.1924 - Stockholm
Sweden - Poland 7:1 (?)

23.05.1925 Prague
Czechoslovakia (amateur) vs Poland 2:1 (1:1)

01.09.1925 Tallinn
Tallin [EST] vs Poland 0:3 (0:2)

01.11.1925 Kraków
Poland vs Sweden 4:1 (2:0)

29.09.1925 Wien
Wien [AUT] vs Poland 1:0 (0:0)

04.10.1925 Constantinople
Constantinople [TUR] vs Poland 3:3 (?)

06.10.1925 Constantinople
Turkey vs Poland 2:2 (1:1)

06.06.1926 Warsau
Poland vs Czechoslovakia (amateur) 1:2 (1:1)

28.10.1928 Prague
Czechoslovakia (amateur) vs Poland 1:0 (1:0)

02.06.1929 Poznań
Poland vs Hungary 5:1 (1:1)

01.08.1929 Kraków
Kraków [PL] vs Poland ? (?)

04.08.1929 Kraków
Poland vs Czechoslovakia (amateur) 2:2 (2:1)

06.10.1929 Graz
Austria (amateur) vs Poland 1:3 (0:1)
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#2 [url]

Oct 4 10 9:33 PM

In November 1969, Poland played in Baghdad.

I don't know whether the team was the national side but it does look likely, as Iraq also played East Germany a month later, and then the following summer toured Europe playing both Poland and East Germany.

The match between Iraq and Poland was played on 18.11.1969 and ended in a 1-1 draw. Douglas Aziz scored for Iraq. I have no other details.

The second match was played between the Iraqi youth team (under the name of Baghdad Youth XI) on 21.11.1969 and that match also ended in a 1-1 draw. The Iraqi goalscorer was Kadhim Aboud and he scored from 30 yards.

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Oct 5 10 12:27 PM

Poland lineup:
Poland: Jan Tomaszewski, Bykowski, Leslaw Cmikiewicz, Jan Domarski, Robert Gadocha, A.Janik, Jan Leszczynski, Michalik, Wladyslaw Szarynski, Ryszard Szymczak, Jan Wrazy.

It seems to be the U23 team. The dates are also reported in December.

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Oct 5 10 9:22 PM

Hi, nfm24

Do you have the goalscorer for the Polish side in 1969?, or any other details of that game, like the line-up for the Iraqi team?

It seems that this game is unofficial. Only Robert Gadocha was a Polish international, while Jan Tomaszewski was not even playing for the Polish NT until around 1971. This was a B team or youth team.

The other matches were all unofficial

1968-12-07 Poland Olympic (B) 2-0 (this match was played against the Iraqi military team)

1970-07-24 3-0 (played in Warsaw, I think this game was made up of reserves) - wouldn't mind some details on this game

1980-06-20 4-1 (a Polish FA XI)

Poland was represented by a team called “The FA Squad”, a combination of A and B teams.

Iraq lost 4-1 to goals from Edward Załężny, Adam Topolski and Stanisław Terlecki (2)

Piotr Mowlik, Edward Załężny, Hieronim Barczak, Włodzimierz Ciołek and Stanisław Terlecki were the only players that took part in both matches against Iraq.

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Oct 6 10 12:32 PM

HM_IRAQ57 wrote:
Do you have the goalscorer for the Polish side in 1969?, or any other details of that game, like the line-up for the Iraqi team?


Goal first match vs Iraq: A.Janik
Goal second match vs Iraq youth: Eugeniusz Pluta
No Iraq lineups I'm afraid.


1968-12-07 Poland Olympic (B) 2-0 (this match was played against the Iraqi military team)


But as you said before, that was really the same as the national team (different label, same contents). Do you have any details of the game?
During these years Poland fielded its A team for Olympic matches, so "Poland Olympic" doesn't make much sense. Most probably Poland B, or Poland U23 again.


1970-07-24 3-0 (played in Warsaw, I think this game was made up of reserves) - wouldn't mind some details on this game


Apparently 18th July, in Lublin

Goals: Szarynski, Lato, Masztaler

Poland: Jan Tomaszewski (Zygmunt Kukla), Zbigniew Plaszewski, Adam Musial, Antoni Galas, J.Lubanski, ?.Fotfolc, Alojzy Deja, Bohdan Masztaler, Tadeusz Nowak, Grzegorz Lato, Wladyslaw Szarynski.
Again it seems to be the U23 team.


trekky76 wrote:
In 1969 the 1-1 match was in December, 18th.
Poland also visited Syria and played Syria Olympic (?) on 14th and Syria Police League XI on 15th.


I know only of this game: 12th December 1969, Syria 0-1 Poland U23 (Goal: Jan Domarski)
Presumably that is the same one as "Syria Olympic" above.

Can anybody *confirm* that the Iraq vs Poland games were in December 1969, not November? E.g. via newspaper source.

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Oct 6 10 1:52 PM

nfm24 wrote:


Can anybody *confirm* that the Iraq vs Poland games were in December 1969, not November? E.g. via newspaper source.


I just checked online records of Dziennik Polski.
In the 1969-12-19 edition they say "an official match" was played between Polish youth team and Iraq. Game started at 1530 but result was not available due to missing link with Iraq. Nothing was reported the next day.

The two matches with Syria were reported in the edition 1969-12-20. However no exact date is given for the matches. First match in Damascus and second in Aleppo. The Polish team is quoted as Olympic selection.

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Oct 6 10 4:05 PM

Great, so that confirms December is right.

I assume you used this archive for Dziennik Polski: http://mbc.malopolska.pl/publication/461
(it can be very slow... but useful, eventually ;-)

"Olympic selection" - again, I don't understand why this term is used... Poland used the A team in Olympc matches. Perhaps they anticipated training younger players for the next Olympics, in 3 years.

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Oct 6 10 4:48 PM

Yup, as usual just the labeling. Clearly PZPN wanted the matches unofficial.
I found no info regarding the 1970 match.. maybe the date is wrong.

The archives are the Cracow edition. The sports section was rather thin.. Possibly more info was included in the Warsaw edition.

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Oct 6 10 9:49 PM

Yes it was 18th July 1970. There is an article in the following edition:

Dziennik Polski (nr 170, 19th July 1970) - page 6, top centre
Zwyciestwo mlodych pilkarzy
W rozegranym w Lublinie miedzypanstwowym spotkaniu pilkarskim kadra mlodziezowa Polski wygrala z reprezentacja Iraku 3:0 (2:0). Bramkii zdobyll: Szarynski, Lato i Masztaler.
Zespol polski wystapil w skladzie: Tomaszewski (Kukla), Lubanski, Galas, Plaszewski, Musial, Fotfolc, Deja, Masztaler, Lato, Nowak. [Sic: 10 players only - I assume the goalscorer Szarynski was the 11th player]
Drugie spotkanie pilkarze Iraku rozegrajja 22 bm. w Szczecinie gdzie spotkaja sie z pierwsza reprezentacja Polski.

Translation:
Youth footballers win
In the international match played in Lublin, the Polish youth team beat the Iraqi representative team 3-0 (halftime 2-0).
Goals: Szarynski, Lato, Mastaler.
Composition of the Polish team: ... as above.
The second match of the Iraqis will be on the 22nd of this month, in Szczecin, where they will play the Polish first national team.


Do you have the full names of Lubanski and Fotfolc ? (I'm sure it was not THE Lubanski)

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Oct 6 10 10:27 PM

Fotfolc is extremely unusual surname in Poland (only 13 people have it today) but I found nothing apart from the fact he played for Zagłębie Sosnowiec in 1970.
One Marek Fotfolc was born in 1949 in Częstochowa; which is same province as Sosnowiec. Birth records will however not confirm that's the same guy

Lubański would've been 23 in 1970 so possibly that's him.

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Oct 6 10 10:29 PM

Maybe Jan Lubański

The coach of the Polish side was Kazimierz Górski, later head coach of Poland (1971-1976)

He was youth coach (Under 23) from 1966 to 1970.

What are the first names of the rest of the youth players
Bykowski
A.Janik - are you sure its A.Janik, there was a Paweł Janik that played at the time for Poland, born 1949.
Michalik

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Oct 7 10 11:58 AM

Jan Lubanski is probably right, it was a defender rather than the well known forward W.Lubanski.

First names - I don't know, I gave all the ones I could find. It could be Pawel Janik, not sure.

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Oct 30 10 8:20 PM

This was Jerzy Fotfolc (born 1952), who made 42 first division appearances between 1970 and 1973 for Zagłębie Sosnowiec.

Paweł Janik was born in 1949.

Stanisław Bykowski, born 1947.

Krystian Michallik (note the double L), born 1943. He had already been capped in 1968.

Thus it was more of a B team probably.

Match report from July 18, 1970 (note the first goal's minute is wrong, should be 30, not 50).

[URL=http://img215.imageshack.us/i/ssa63015.jpg/]image[/URL]

In 1969, Poland (olympic, as it was dubbed, even though there was no sense calling up an olympic team two years before the next OG qualifying) won against Iraqi Army XI 2:0 with goals from Joachim Stachuła (33) and Bronisław Bula (68 ). The next day, they played Iraqi Police XI and won 2:1 (Marian Kozerski 2 goals), and on the 11th, won against a United Arab Republic team 1:0 (Kozerski again).

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Oct 31 10 11:20 AM

Any chance you have details on the match played in Baghdad between the Iraq national team and the Poland U23 in 1969


This is the Iraqi team that played against Poland U23 in 1970 (according to your newspaper cutting)

Sattar Khalaf; Samir Nashi (Riyadh Shaker), Sami Al-Hakak, Abdul-Wahid Washih, Majid Ali; Douglas Aziz, Hazim Jassam (Nouri Dhiab), Falah Hassan; Emmanuel “Ammo” Yousef, Ali Kadhim, Falih Abid Hajim (Mudhafar Nouri)

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Oct 31 10 12:37 PM

Unfortunately no details on the Iraqi lineups in the 1969 tour have come down to us here; considering the quality of phone calls in those days, we are lucky we have the Polish ones.

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Nov 1 10 6:01 PM

silvermane wrote:
In 1969, Poland (olympic, as it was dubbed, even though there was no sense calling up an olympic team two years before the next OG qualifying) won against Iraqi Army XI 2:0 with goals from Joachim Stachuła (33) and Bronisław Bula (68 ). The next day, they played Iraqi Police XI and won 2:1 (Marian Kozerski 2 goals), and on the 11th, won against a United Arab Republic team 1:0 (Kozerski again).


Is this 1969 or 1968 ?

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Nov 1 10 7:52 PM

Phew!

Also for 1968, Poland's first national team was on tour in South America. These are the results I have, can anybody add more? Or confirm that it is complete? Some of the dates may be slightly wrong...


5-12 Bogota Millonarios 3-1 Poland
8-12 Bogota Millonarios 0-1 Poland
11-12 Santiago Colo-Colo 1-2 Poland
13-12 Santiago Univ. Catolica 0-1 Poland
17-12 Mar del Plata Argentina 1-0 Poland
19-12 Lima Peru XI* 1-0 Poland


* Peru XI combination of Universitario and Alianza.

The two games in Santiago were part of a tournament, which Poland won. The fourth team was Portuguesa (Sao Paulo).

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