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#41 [url]

Nov 7 11 9:15 PM

What is Przeglad sportsky?


Przegląd Sportowy is the oldest sport newspaper in Poland, first appearing in 1921. Issues up to 1959 inclusive are available online.

22.08.1979 Poland Ol. - Yugoslavia Ol. 2:1 (1:1)

Miłoszewicz 36, Piechaczek 64 - Slisković 22

Bydgoszcz, Zawisza stadium

Poland: Stanisław Burzyński, Adam Topolski (71 Marek Motyka), Egon Piechaczek, Andrzej Sikorski, Janusz Sroka (46 Stanisław Sobczyński), Leszek Lipka (46 Adam Kensy), Roman Wójcicki, Henryk Miłoszewicz, Romuald Chojnacki, Krzysztof Adamczyk, Tadeusz Małnowicz
Yugoslavia: Stojanović (46 Dalanović) - Hadzić (46 Starovlas), Rozić, Primorać, Hrotić, Cukrov (71 Bogdan), Krstević, Janjanin, Zlatko Vujović (46 Zoran Vujović), Slisković, Sestić
Yellow: Janjanin

Ref. Stumpf (East Germany), att. 15000

Missing the other match with East Germany (let me look at the FUWO archive tomorrow, fortunately I've got issues 1-40 from 1979)

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#42 [url]

Nov 7 11 10:05 PM

Fast Midfielder wrote:
It is also important to know how this match was announced.


I did check archives from 1965 and that year the match vs Bulgaria was announced as the 13th between the teams so it suggests the 1961 match was not official.
BTW That match was played as part of a tournament and it is mentioned French Reims also participated. They beat Legia 3-1 in a match the very same day.

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Nov 8 11 10:34 AM

23.09.1979 Poland Ol. - East Germany Ol. 2:1 (0:0)

Chojnacki 60, Bolcek 62 - J. Müller 74 pen

Poland: Stanisław Burzyński, Adam Topolski, Józef Adamiec, Waldemar Tumiński, Janusz Sroka, Henryk Miłoszewicz (46 Wojciech Sączek), Włodzimierz Smolarek (84 Józef Szewczyk), Alfred Bolcek, Romuald Chojnacki, Krzysztof Adamczyk (69 Hubert Fajt), Tadeusz Małnowicz. Coach Edmund Zientara

East Germany: Rudwaleit (46 Stötzner), Strozniak, Uhlig, Rohde, Noack, J. Müller, Terletzki, Decker (74 Krause), Bähringer, Peter, Netz (74 Tyll). Coach Krause

Ref. Butenko (Soviet Union), att ?

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#44 [url]

Nov 9 11 2:14 PM

trekky76 wrote:
I did check archives from 1965 and that year the match vs Bulgaria was announced as the 13th between the teams so it suggests the 1961 match was not official.
BTW That match was played as part of a tournament and it is mentioned French Reims also participated. They beat Legia 3-1 in a match the very same day.


I also have the score of another match : 07/05/1961 Legia 1-2 Bulgaria
Did Poland play vs Reims?

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#45 [url]

Nov 9 11 5:44 PM

It was indeed a "tournament" held on the 40th anniversary of PS, but not in an usual format... rather a series of friendlies with no clear winner.

May 6: Poland XI - Bulgaria XI 1:1 and Legia - Reims 1:3 (two matches in succession at the Warsaw Decade Stadium)

May 7: Wisła - Reims 2:4 in Cracow and Legia - Bulgaria XI 1:2 in Lublin

Poland XI obviously played without Legia players (which were not regularly called up at that time anyway).

The Poland-Bulgaria lineup is given above, I might only add the substitution minutes: Myga (60 Lerch) and Pohl (76 Wilczek)

Anyone interested in details for the other three matches?

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#47 [url]

Nov 11 11 10:46 AM

silvermane wrote:
Anyone interested in details for the other three matches?


Always for any match which involves a national team (or something resembling one)
Perhaps just the goalscorers of the other (inter-club) games.

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May 20 12 11:43 AM

Today: Poland vs Rapid Lienz (Austria) 8-0.
Poland was Tytoń - Kucharczyk, Jodłowiec, Wojtkowiak, Kamiński - Matuszczyk, Polański (Murawski) - Mierzejewski, Wolski, Grosicki - Sobiech (Brożek)

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#49 [url]

May 21 12 3:51 PM

Re: Polish unoficial matches


01.08.1929 Kraków
Kraków [PL] vs Poland ? (?)


I found this match by "accident"; Kraków XI won 4:1 (2:1 HT). Kozok scored both for Poland. Pazurek (2), Jesionka and Ptak for Kraków XI.

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Jun 4 12 7:59 PM

Guerin Sportivo number 9, from 1986, page 86, reports a surprising result:

28/01/1986 Civitavecchia-Poland 2-2

Civitavecchia was a club from the Italian Serie C2 (the fourth level).

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Jun 5 12 6:20 PM

Luca wrote:
Guerin Sportivo number 9, from 1986, page 86, reports a surprising result:

28/01/1986 Civitavecchia-Poland 2-2

Civitavecchia was a club from the Italian Serie C2 (the fourth level).


1986 Polish tour in Italy:

23.01.1986 Poland - Macerata Province XI 1:0 (0:0) Smolarek

26.01.1986 Poland - Camerino (Prima Categoria - 7th level) 7:0 (2:0) (Furtok 3, Okoński, Baran, Karaś, Wójcicki) - mostly reserves played

28.01.1986 Poland - Civitavecchia (C2) 2:2 (0:2) (Dziekanowski, Smolarek)

01.02.1986 Poland - Pisa (A) 2:0 (1:0) (Dziekanowski, Tarasiewicz)

Which league was the Camerino club from? I can't find them even on the fifth level (Interregionale)

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#52 [url]

Jun 5 12 8:04 PM

silvermane wrote:


Which league was the Camerino club from? I can't find them even on the fifth level (Interregionale)


Over the season 1985-86, Camerino participated in "Prima Categoria", that is to say the eighth level of the Italian football at that time. The coach was Fabrizio Castori.

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#53 [url]

Mar 17 13 8:56 AM

silvermane wrote:
The 1974-04-13 match vs Haiti is for some reason "A" match for Poland.


Unfortunately yes. Supposedly the match was reported to FIFA as official, even though it was clear the A team was engaged elsewhere.


The 13-04-1974 match is listed in FIFA News 131, April 1974 and the 15-04-1974 match in FIFA News 132, May 1974. This says at least Haitian FA reported both matches as A-international at FIFA at the time, it says nothing about what Polish FA did. I remember about 15 year ago I read Polish FA regard these matches as official A since 1997 because it appears on the FIFA list. The same goes for the matches Poland played in January/February 1981 in Japan, which appears in FIFA News 214, March 1981.

Probably Polish FA gave these matches the A-international status many years afterwards as a result of a misunderstanding. People might have thought these matches should be official A because they appear at "Category "A"" at various FIFA lists. Matches appeared in this category if the home team reported it as such at FIFA (like i.e. Malta matches against Italy Serie C). May be people at Polish FA can explain why they added these matches afterwards.

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Mar 17 13 5:48 PM

nfm24 wrote:
Remember that (at that time) FIFA's criteria for Category "A" international matches required only the *home* team to be the A team.

which is a ridiculous rule and too easy. So a match against an U-15 team can be an A-international match and the return can never be an A-international.

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#57 [url]

Mar 17 13 5:50 PM

SDb wrote:
PZPN did not add anything afterwards; the list they have was acquired from an external source. They have since then only added new matches.

So actually these friendlies against Haiti and Japan are not A-international matches and should be deleted as such.

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#58 [url]

Mar 18 13 12:45 PM

Poland played several unofficial matches. Sometimes as Warsaw, sometimes as an other city. Also their opponents most of their times were labelled as a City XI, but there are many examples everywhere a City XI included also players from other cities and was de facto a full NT. Regarding Poland unofficial matches I was hoping to find some info regarding the 1947-59 era at this site, but unfortunately I can't open the 1947-59 documents

It is regarding these matches I want some info:
04-05-1947 Poland 0-2 Sofia (=Bulgaria NT)
20-04-1948 Silesia 2-1 Prague (two days after Poland - Czechoslovakia)
21-08-1950 Helsinki 2-4 Poland
06-12-1953 Tirana 2-0 Warsaw (one week after Albania - Poland; in 1953 Albania NT existed of Tirana based players, Poland NT mostly of non Warsaw players)
02(?)-05-1954 Warsaw 0-0 Prague (in 1954 hardly Warsaw based players were fielded in Poland NT, Czechoslovakia was preparing for 1954 World Cup
17-05-1954 Prague 4-2 Warsaw (same as 02(?)-05-1954 match; both Polish goalscorers were not from Waraw based clubs)
17-07-1955 Warsaw 9-1 Helsinki (in 1955 Poland NT hardly fielded Waraw based players; two of the goalscorers were not from Warsaw based clubs)
23-07-1955 Warsaw 4-2 Budapest (goalscorer Cieslik was not a Warsaw based player)
10-08-1955 Warsaw 0-3 Tirana (goalscorer Cieslik was not a Warsaw based player)
10-08-1955 Warsaw 0-1 Bucharest
12-08-1955 Warsaw 3-1 Cairo
11-11-1958 Antwerp 3-6 Warsaw (match was played in Brussels; Polish goalscorers Pohl and Majewski were not from Warsaw based clubs)
30-03-1959 Antwerp 3-1 Warsaw (match was played in Brussels)
02-12-1959 Haifa 0-3 Warsaw (three days after the Israel - Poland match; Polish goalscorer Pohl was not from a Warsaw based club)

The reason I am not asking for matches played against USSR aka as Moscow XI in the 1952-54 years, is because this already has been explained here http://roonba.fr.yuku.com/topic/1314/USSR-1952-Olympic-Games-preparation both Poland (in 1954 as Warsaw, but most of the players were from other cities) and USSR (Moscow XI did not field only Moscow based players) fielded their full NT

Last Edited By: Fast Midfielder Mar 21 13 11:19 AM. Edited 5 times.

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#60 [url]

Mar 18 13 2:49 PM

Well I tried to install them, but even then it does not work. May be some Polish forum members can help, by providing the line up both teams that played. Or at least to give a link to a newspaper archive. Thanks to the links to the goalscorers it is already clear in at least six of the matches as mentioned not all players were from the city they represented, so the label does not correspond with the contents.

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