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Aruba-Guam.... who will finance this games...? but I certainly hope they will take place....is there more information ?
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Apr 4 14 7:21 PM

nfm24 wrote:
I can't see that video. Did anyone keep the match details (excuse my laziness in not looking properly, I am on holiday ;-)
Hhmm, the video is now private...

27 March 2014, Oranjestad, Compleho Deportivo Guillermo Prospero Trinidad
Aruba - Guam 2-2
Referee:  Jose Luis Hoyos Matheus (Venezuela)  
Assistant Referee:  Jairo Romero Sanchez (Venezuela)
Assistant Referee:  Tulio Moreno Cedeno (Venezuela)
4th official:  Mayker Alain Gomez (Venezuela)
3' Raymond Baten 1-0
65' Jay Camille (pen.) 1-1
77' Jay Camille 1-2
90'+2 Annuar Kock (pen.) 2-2

30 March 2014, Oranjestad, Compleho Deportivo Guillermo Prospero Trinidad
Aruba - Guam 2-0
Referee: Mayker Alain Gomez (Venezuela) 
Assistant Referee: Tulio Moreno Cedeno (Venezuela)
Assistant Referee: Jairo Romero Sanchez (Venezuela)
4th official:  Jose Luis Hoyos Matheus (Venezuela)
23' Denzel Dumfries 1-0
75' Annuar Kock 2-0

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Apr 5 14 10:08 AM

I have some details
first game
Aruba 2-2 Guam
ARU:Raymond Baten 3,Annuar Kock 90+2 GUA:Jason Cunliffe 65pen,78
Venue:Complejo Deportivo Guillermo Prospero Trinidad
Sent off:Eric Santos 90+2 - Thadeus Atalig 90+1
Booked:Baten 66 - Jason Cunliffe 43,S Nicklaw 53,Ustruck 71,Thadeus Atalig 84,90+1
ARU:1 Matthew Lentink-6 Steve Escalona,3 Reinhard Breinburg,5 Leroy Oehlers,2 Denzel Dumfries-4 Theric Ruiz,10 Raymond Baten,8 Ronnie Nouwen-7 Dwayne Raven (17 Eric "Astro" Santos 70),18 Maurice Escalona (12 Annuar Kock 64),11 Marlon Andrea
Coach:Giovanni Franken
GUA:1 Doug Herrick-3 Jonathan Romero,2 Eric Ustruck,5 Travis Nicklaw,15 Shawn Nicklaw-7 John Matkin (16 Dylan Naputi 88),13 Ryan Guy,8 Thadeus Atalig,10 Jason Cunliffe,11 Shane Malcolm*-9 Ian Mariano (12 Marcus Lopez 77)
Not used:4 Micah Paulinho,6 Scott Leon Guerrero,14 Jordan Gregory,17 Dominic Gadia,19 Dallas Jaye
Coach:Gary White
* first international game for the jamaican born, us resident

2nd game
Aruba 2-0 Guam
Dumfries 23, Kock 75
Sent off: 3 Guam players (one inthe first, 2 late in the 2nd half)
ARU:1 Jean Marc Antersijn-3 Reinhard Breinburg,15 Pancho Croes,4 Theric Ruiz,5 Leroy Oehlers,2 Denzel Dumfries-6 Steve Escalona,10 Raymond Baten,8 Ronnie Nouwen-7 Dwayne Raven (16 John Lugay ??),11 Marlon Andrea (12 Annuar Kock ??)
other subs may have been used
GUA:1 Doug Herrick-3 Jonathan Romero,4 Micah Paulinho,5 Travis Nicklaw,7 John Matkin,9 Ian Mariano,10 Jason Cunliffe,11 Shane Malcolm,13 Ryan Guy,15 Shawn Nicklaw,16 Dylan Naputi
Used subs:6 Scott Leon Guerrero,19 Dallas Jaye (GK),12 Marcus Lopez
other subs may have been used

Guam squad
Keepers
Matthew Lentink (Goes/Netherlands),Jean Marc Antersijn (SV Dakota),Eric Abdul ( SV Estrella)
Defenders
Leroy Oehlers (Huizen/Netherlands),Reinhard Breinburg (Quick Boys/Netherlands),Pancho Croes (SV Estrella),
Raymond Tromp (SV Dakota),Nickenson Paul (SV Dakota),Theric Ruiz (Britannia Aruba ),Roman Aparicio  (Rca Pa Bida )
Midfeilders
Steve Escalona (Gravenzande/Netherlands),Steven Rua (RCA),Raymond Baten (Westlandia/Netherlands),Ronnie Nouwen
(Feyenoord AV/Netherlands),Erik Santos (Rca Pa Bida ),Luis Carlos Croes (Brazil Jrs ),Annuar Kock (SV Estrella),
Denzel Dumfries (??/Netherlands),LeonCito 'Chito' van der Biezen (U.S.V. Elinkwijk/Netherlands)
Forwards:
Maurice Escalona  (Rca Pa Bida ),Marlon Andrea (Britannia Aruba ),Dwayne Raven (Estrella),Ronald Gomez  (Rca Pa Bida )
Ezra Bosnie  (??/Netherlands)

Last Edited By: mikaelj Apr 5 14 10:11 AM. Edited 1 time.

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Apr 5 14 11:11 AM

Great! I managed to identify the Guam starting lineups from the photos (except number 11), but for subs I guess somebody had to watch the live stream of the match...
Captains were Breinburg and Cunliffe, if anybody wants to know...

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Apr 5 14 12:33 PM

If only the right job paid any money!

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Apr 5 14 4:49 PM

mikaelj wrote:
Guam squad
Keepers
Matthew Lentink (Goes/Netherlands),Jean Marc Antersijn (SV Dakota),Eric Abdul ( SV Estrella)
Defenders
Leroy Oehlers (Huizen/Netherlands),Reinhard Breinburg (Quick Boys/Netherlands),Pancho Croes (SV Estrella),
Raymond Tromp (SV Dakota),Nickenson Paul (SV Dakota),Theric Ruiz (Britannia Aruba ),Roman Aparicio  (Rca Pa Bida )
Midfeilders
Steve Escalona (Gravenzande/Netherlands),Steven Rua (RCA),Raymond Baten (Westlandia/Netherlands),Ronnie Nouwen
(Feyenoord AV/Netherlands),Erik Santos (Rca Pa Bida ),Luis Carlos Croes (Brazil Jrs ),Annuar Kock (SV Estrella),
Denzel Dumfries (??/Netherlands),LeonCito 'Chito' van der Biezen (U.S.V. Elinkwijk/Netherlands)
Forwards:
Maurice Escalona  (Rca Pa Bida ),Marlon Andrea (Britannia Aruba ),Dwayne Raven (Estrella),Ronald Gomez  (Rca Pa Bida )
Ezra Bosnie  (??/Netherlands)
That's not the Guam squad but the Aruban.
Some minor corrections:
Matthew Lentink plays for GOES ("Gezamenlijk Opwaarts Eendrachtig Sterk") from Goes.
Roman Aparicio, Erik Santos, Maurice Escalona and Ronald Gomez all play for RCA.
Steve Escalona plays for FC 's-Gravenzande.
Denzel Dumfries plays for BVV Barendrecht.
Ezra Bosnie played 2013-'14 for GOZ (Netherlands), couldn't find where he plays now.

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Nov 19 14 12:39 AM

Guam plays Hong Kong tonight in Taiwan. I expect them to lose narrowly, and anyhow they will almost certainly not qualify even with a win.
But having already beaten Taiwan at home, should Guam now be considered to have promoted itself out of minnow status? Or is it rather that Taiwan has plummeted to minnow level? Or both?

Taiwan has gone from being continental champion (well, Asian Games...) 50 years ago to being barely able to beat anybody at all.

Obviously, this is a somewhat artificial case due to the nature of Taiwan's (football) history. But I'd like to know, what is the furthest that a continental champion (or leading team) has sunk?
Considering not individual matches (e.g. Greece 0-1 Faroes) but instead consistent level over several years.

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Nov 19 14 10:21 AM

nfm24 wrote:
Obviously, this is a somewhat artificial case due to the nature of Taiwan's (football) history. But I'd like to know, what is the furthest that a continental champion (or leading team) has sunk?
Considering not individual matches (e.g. Greece 0-1 Faroes) but instead consistent level over several years.

Maybe Canada? They won the Gold Cup in 2000, but nowadays their level is quite terrible. In September 2013 theye were even beat by Mauritania...

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Nov 19 14 8:47 PM

Such is the unpredictable nature of international football that Taiwan managed to draw 0-0 with the best team in the group (North Korea). Guam also got a creditable 0-0 draw with Hong Kong. I feel sorry for anyone who bought a "double ticket" to see both games of the day.

Canada's level is not "terrible" on a continental level. They are still much better than the majority of the Caribbean teams, for example. They are certainly in the top half of the CONCACAF rankings rather than the bottom half. Taiwan's descent is much more noticeable, and they are certainly in the bottom quarter of Asian teams nowadays.


Netherlands Antilles/Curaçao would be a better representative for CONCACAF's "riches to rags" than Canada.

Below I list countries who are a "shadow of their former selves" (some more so than others):  Much of the African and Asian teams' success can also be attributed to the fact that not many countries played internationally from these 2 continents at the beginning.
UEFA: Hungary
CONMEBOL: Peru
CAF: Ethiopia, Sudan
AFC: Taiwan, India, Burma
CONCACAF: Netherlands Antilles/Curaçao
OFC: Nobody.  (Tahiti if pushed to choose)

Of all of the above, Taiwan is the "champion".  They are currently 43rd out of 50 in the Asian elo ratings and from a high of 29th (in 1958) they are now at 211 globally.  Their points total has more than halved, going from 1633 to 794 in that time.

Last Edited By: TheRoonBa Nov 23 14 7:32 AM. Edited 2 times.

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Nov 20 14 1:14 AM

Based on the quoted attendances it looks like even double ticket holders just showed up for the Taiwan games only.
The EAFF is possibly the sub-confederation with the most variation in level of members (perhaps somebody could do an actual numerical study on that to check)
From regular World Cup finalists Japan and South Korea right down to Macau and NMI.

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Nov 23 14 7:41 AM

Without doing a numerical study, being lazy and unwilling, I think the very fact we have the weakest team in AFC and the strongest team in AFC in the same sub-confederation means there is the largest spread, at least. Of the other sub-confederations with a significant number of Top level teams (i.e. West Asia only), the worst teams are Palestine/Yemen, who are actually not that bad, and probably lower middle-ranking within AFC. SAFF is uniformly crap. AFF/ASEAN has no real top level Asian teams, but does have some minnows (Brunei, East Timor). Central Asia is basically Uzbekistan and the other 3 middle-ranking "stans". In other continents, sub-confederationally speaking, the regions with the real minnows seem to be pretty bad in general, with no top teams. CECAFA has Djibouti and Somalia, but no top teams on a continental level. UFFOI (Indian Ocean) has Comoros, but again, no top teams. In general, the difference between top and bottom in the whole of Africa is not very big when compared to other continents (possibly second only to CONMEBOL in that respect). In CONCACAF, the difference between top and bottom of CFU is relatively large (but I think Japan-NMI is possibly a bigger gulf than Jamaica-British Virgin Islands).

If OFC ever joins AFC, then a case could be argued for it to rival EAFF as the "sub-confederation with the most variation in the playing level of its members",


The Roon Ba Forum is clearly where all the most important and sought-after footballing categories can be found.

Last Edited By: TheRoonBa Nov 23 14 7:43 AM. Edited 1 time.

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Nov 23 14 11:52 AM

That's why we are so popular and well respected globally.
If we allow confederations as a whole, I'd say the spread of OFC was biggest when it included Australia.
Perhaps now CONCACAF with Mexico & USA right down to BVI.

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Jun 11 15 11:49 AM

Ironhide wrote:
11th June 2015 World Cup Qualifer (2018 Russia) Guam - Turkmenistan 1:0 Guam's win with probably the best opponent to this day.

TBD :)

According to AFC there were 11 forwards in Guam team.. but it actually was just an own goal of Turkmenistan.

www.soccer-db.info - football internationals

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Jun 11 15 12:58 PM

Hopefully 2018 will now be hosted on Guam, so they will qualify automatically.

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