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22.1.08 - CONCACAF has announced the fixtures for the Caribbean Futsal Qualifying Tournament that will take place from 5-9 March at the National Sports Hall in Georgetown, Guyana.
The six-team Caribbean tournament, which will qualify two squads to the 2008 CONCACAF Futsal Championship, has two groups of three. Haiti and Sint Maarten join the hosts, Guyana in Group A, while Group B consists of Puerto Rico, Surinam and Trinidad & Tobago.

The two Caribbean qualifiers will join Costa Rica, Cuba, Mexico, Panama, USA and the host, Guatemala at the 2008 CONCACAF Futsal Championship at the Domo Polideportivo in Guatemala City from 2-8 June.

http://www.concacaf.com/view_article.asp?id=4082
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TheRoonBa

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Oct 20 10 3:56 AM

Sint Maarten held a Caribbean international football tournament from 3rd-5th June 1995 in Philipsburg (apparently the 2nd such tournament). It seems all teams played 3 games (2 group matches and then a placement match?)

Teams:
Sint Maarten national team
Saint Martin national team
USA U-23 national team
Sparta Rotterdam
Friburguense AC
AS Cannes

Known results
Sint Maarten 1-3 USA U-23 [AJ Wood, Brian Kelly, Ante Razov]
USA U-23 0-0 Friburguense AC
Sint Maarten ?-? Friburguense AC

Saint Martin ?-? AS Cannes
AS Cannes ?-? Sparta Rotterdam
Saint Martin ?-? Sparta Rotterdam

PLACEMENT MATCHES (?)
USA U-23 1-0 Sparta Rotterdam
??? Friburguense AC ?-? AS Cannes
??? Sint Maarten ?-? Saint Martin

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Oct 26 10 3:22 PM

It was the USA Olympic team, which had some overage players (e.g. Kasey Keller aged 25), so was not precisely the U23 team.

An article I found mentioned this:
"Matches will take place at Raoul Illidge Stadium in the Dutch capital of Philipsburg on June 3 and 5, and at Alberic Richards Stadium in the French capital of Marigot on June 4 and 7, with the final match and trophy presentation on the latter day."
"The event has grown tremendously since last year,"

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Jan 4 11 6:49 PM

GROUP 1
03/06/1995 AS Cannes 1-0 Sparta Rotterdam - Philipsburg
04/06/1995 Saint Martin 3-4 AS Cannes - Marigot
05/06/1995 Saint Martin 0-9 Sparta Rotterdam - Philipsburg

GROUP 2
03/06/1995 Sint Maarten 1-3 USA Olympic - Philipsburg
04/06/1995 Sint Maarten 0-5 Friburguense AC - Marigot
05/06/1995 USA Olympic 0-0 Friburguense AC - Philipsburg

PLACEMENT MATCHES
FINAL
07/06/1995 Friburguense AC 2-1 AS Cannes - Marigot

3RD PLACE
07/06/1995 USA Olympic 1-0 Sparta Rotterdam - Marigot

5TH PLACE
07/06/1995 Saint Martin ?-? Sint Maarten - Marigot

Typically, the only possible international match (St.Martin v St.Maarten) is missing. It could be that there was no 5th place match.

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May 17 11 7:28 PM

http://www.thedailyherald.com/sports/local-sports/12613-soccer-association-plans-out-calendar.html

"The board [Sint Maarten Soccer Association] is also considering the possibility of organising a fun Commercial Tournament for business as well as starting the paperwork to become a member of FIFA.

There is also news of "Friendship Games" to be held in Curaçao in July, to replace the old Kingdom Games. Sint Maarten is planning to send a team, but it is not mentioned what kind of team they plan to send.

Seems we might see Sint Maarten returning to competition soon, as they have set up U-15, U-17 and U-23 teams recently, and they have all started playing matches.

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May 18 11 5:13 PM

Kivo wrote:
Depends if they started their application to join before the pre-requisition that you had to be independent came into effect


That was many years ago. This application is a recent one.

They may stand a better chance than others, because they are described as a 'country' in the Dutch constitution.

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May 18 11 8:00 PM

Yup, you could argue the Netherlands team doesn't represent a 'sovereign' state - only the country of the Netherlands - a constitutent country of the Kingdom of the Netherlands.

Ditto Denmark , England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland.

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May 19 11 3:07 PM

I hate to sound like a broken record, but it again feels like I have to say this every time a subject like this is brought up until people start to remember it themselves…

FIFA does not require a region to be independent to join.

FIFA Statutes, on page 11:
“An Association in a region which has not yet gained independence may, with the authorisation of the Association in the country on which it is dependent, also apply for admission to FIFA.”

That means that if the KNVB (the Dutch FA) give their authorization, Sint Maarten can become a FIFA member.

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May 19 11 6:08 PM

So what is stoping Gibraltar joining if the FA, SFA, IFA and FAI give their consent?

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May 19 11 6:17 PM

Problem is UEFA : they only accept UNO-members, but it is not logical that different federations of FIFA have different rules for membership. you cannot join FIFA before being provisional member of a continental federation.... (if I am right?)

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May 19 11 11:45 PM

MTC wrote:
I hate to sound like a broken record, but it again feels like I have to say this every time a subject like this is brought up until people start to remember it themselves…

FIFA does not require a region to be independent to join.

FIFA Statutes, on page 11:
“An Association in a region which has not yet gained independence may, with the authorisation of the Association in the country on which it is dependent, also apply for admission to FIFA.”

That means that if the KNVB (the Dutch FA) give their authorization, Sint Maarten can become a FIFA member.


I also hate to sound like a broken record, but we all know this already. And we've had many discussions on it before. FIFA does not require a region to be independent, but the case of Zanzibar (for example) is contradictory. They had the backing of the Tanzania FA, yet FIFA turned them down as they were not a recognised nation, despite the fact they had a separate league and a separate functional national team playing in the CECAFA Cup for over 60 years, and they were also a separate member of CAF.

And as Pieter says, confederational membership has to be sought first, and then only after a certain period as a member of a confederation can a member join FIFA. As certain confederations have contradictory admission rules (CAF and OFC, for example, somehow state that a country needs to be a FIFA member before it can become a member of their confederation, despite the fact that the opposite is required - thus making it impossible for any new team to join, never mind non-independent territories).

It's not as simple as a parent body giving consent and then everything is all fine. The parent body of Gibraltar (which was technically England), gave their consent for Gibraltar to join. Yet, we all know what happened there.


Also, technically speaking, Sint Maarten had a separate FA already, as they were already CONCACAF members. So there was nothing to stop them applying to FIFA before.

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May 19 11 11:51 PM

Kivo wrote:
So what is stoping Gibraltar joining if the FA, SFA, IFA and FAI give their consent?


FAI would not be involved as Ireland is not part of the UK. It would be the FAW.

I believe only 3 of the 4 UK associations voted for Gibraltar, but that should have been enough.

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May 20 11 4:56 PM

Gibraltar only requires the authority of the English FA to join FIFA, however as the application was made before the rules where changed I believe that this rule does not effect Gibraltar at all dispite what both FIFA & UEFA say as per the case that went to CAS.

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May 20 11 10:44 PM

Moses wrote:
Gibraltar only requires the authority of the English FA to join FIFA, however as the application was made before the rules where changed I believe that this rule does not effect Gibraltar at all dispite what both FIFA & UEFA say as per the case that went to CAS.


Gibraltar and the FA no longer have any ties - this has been covered on another thread. They used to be affiliated, but this affiliation has lapsed. Therefore, I believe all 4 UK associations would have to be asked.

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Mar 12 12 12:54 PM

http://www.thedailyherald.com/sports/local-sports/25333-fieldless-soccer-association-remains-busy-awaits-pitch-.html

Interesting article on the problems facing Sint Maarten - apparently, they have problems of player eligibility when they select national teams.

But some good news:

"The Association looks to increase the Island's international exposure. This summer the association is working on hosting a Leeward Island Tournament which it hopes will develop into a home and away competition featuring teams from St. Kitts and Nevis, Antigua, Montserrat, BVI, Anguilla and the St. Martin.
In August, the association also plans to field a team in the regional Digicell Competition Tournament"

Not sure whether the Leeward Island Tournament will be for national teams or club teams - it is not clear here. But it would be good to see Sint Maarten in the Digicel Caribbean Cup qualifying rounds after 12 years. Let's hope they manage to field a team.

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Dec 20 12 11:21 PM

06.05.2011 - Sint Maarten U-23 2-1 Sint Eustatius
07.05.2011 - Sint Maarten U-17 2-5 Sint Eustatius

Both matches in Philipsburg (Raoul Illidge Sports Complex)

Photo from 1st match (Sint Maarten U-23 in red)

Sint Maarten has no senior team at the moment, so the U-23 team is effectively the national team.


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Dec 21 12 1:08 AM

Great find. Hopefully they will reform their senior team soon. If they do it seems a game versus Sint Eustatius would be possible.

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